Michael Patton wrote a post the other day concerning the
idea that one ought not to respond in the same way that the Lord and Paul
responded to people in terms of their being harsh with others. Of course, I
guess we can respond as they did when they weren’t harsh, but emulation only
works one way apparently. In any case, I wanted to make some points as to why
Michael’s post isn’t really accurate, as Michael and I have discussed this
issue before and I feel he’s basing his thoughts on some bad exegesis. I do want to say that I like Michael. I agree with Michael on so many things. But this is our John Mark. I vehemently disagree with him on this, and think it's important for the sake of those to whom we speak to get this right.
- The passages
Michael uses are being misinterpreted via ethnocentric eisegesis. We tend
to live in a society that overemphasizes tone as the standard for right
behavior. Aggression is bad. Because truth is no longer something that can
be known, what is really important is the way you talk to people. No one
can come to the truth, so arguing over it vehemently or coming at someone
with a harsh rebuke, as though you know the truth and he doesn’t, is not
acceptable. Instead, one needs to simply deal with others by respecting
their opinions and their attitudes toward those opinions. So what is
really important is not the truth or a display that the truth is important
by being rigid and harsh about it to those who treat it lightly, but
rather how we treat people in our interactions with them. That can be our
universal good, rather than vying for what is true, since the only true
virtue that we can know is the virtue of respecting others and other
people’s opinions by not acting as though they are evil (even though we
may nicely try to say that they are evil in a roundabout, irenic fashion).
But saying that they are bad and acting like they are evil are two
different things. Our behavior toward those ideas should not follow what
we think of those ideas. Hence, relativism (and a compartmentalizing of
feelings and thoughts) feeds into this interpretation.
But there is something else going
on as well. Because we are always looking at our culture as the foil for
biblical standards, we end up thinking that the term “gentleness” means “irenic,”
since whatever the culture is practicing in that regard must be less gentle
than what the Bible is calling for.
In fact, however, the term in biblical
literature is closer to something like “non-violence,” with an emphasis on
physical violence. You have to remember, a lot of cultures beat people into
submission (many still do this). In many cultures, teachers hit their kids (including
teenagers) in school when they act up. Parents often beat their children with
full permission of society. The biblical command is in contrast to this
culture, not ours, and the command to be gentle is one where we are not to
grab, hit, violently scream at someone in order to instruct them in godliness.
Instead, we are to rebuke, reprove, correct, and exhort with all patience. Sometimes
that rebuke is harsh and sometimes that rebuke is soft. I would suggest we
actually do emulate Christ and Paul here, as opposed to Michael’s advice, and
respond to each person according to what they need, i.e., according to their
spirit of humility toward God’s Word or rebellion against it. That looks to be
a lot more biblical than Michael’s culturally-bound suggestion that we just be
irenic with everyone without exception, or we are being sinful (which is very
much the implication of these sorts of arguments).
But what is worse with Michael’s
exegesis is that he fails to understand that the command to be gentle (i.e.,
non-violent) and give respect in the Petrine passage he uses here (and there is
a long line of people misusing this passage) is that it is in the context of a
subordinate to a superior (i.e., it’s not talking about how we address each
other or a superior is to address a subordinate—he deals with that separately
in his command for husbands to treat their wives well). Peter is talking about
slaves with masters, wives with husbands, citizens with government. He’s not
talking about everyone with everyone. This is made clear by both the context
and the word he uses for “respect” (i.e., “fear”). “Fear,” as I’ve argued
before, is a term given to convey that one ought to recognize another’s
authority over him or her. It doesn’t mean respect in the sense that our
culture sees respect in terms of every individual. We think respect means being
irenic. Peter is talking about recognizing authority and not acting in violence
against it. Hence, the recipients of the command and the sphere in which this command applies is made plain by the context and the words used. This is addressing a subordinate-superior context only. If we want to see if this is true for all contexts, we have to look at the entire Bible, and when we do that, the argument against being harsh doesn't hold. See how different that is when you pay attention to context and the
words actually used, rather than assume that your English Bible and modern
context are sufficient to interpret the Word of God?
Michael’s interpretation here is
everything he poured into the text, and virtually nothing of what he pulled out
of it. But he has a strong zeitgeist on his side, and this is a big problem for
modern evangelicals, as they tend to confuse the inward and outward pull of the
zeitgeist with the Holy Spirit who is usually in opposition to it. I’ve said
this all before to Michael, but his traditions are greater at this point, so he
just keeps on keeping on, since everybody else around him seems to interpret
these passages the same way, so how could he be wrong?
- The justification
of Jesus and Paul (not to mention pretty much everyone else in the Bible)
that it was OK for them to be belligerent because they had the authority
to do so, assumes that authority somehow allows for a greater leniency
rather than a greater restriction of one’s actions.
First, we are actually told to
imitate both Christ and Paul, and so I’m not sure who our models of behavior
should be if not them.
Second, we are told that their
harsh reactions are due to being filled with the Holy Spirit, not a demonic
one, unless Michael wants to commit the unpardonable sin here.
Third, and this is really
important, we, as authorities in the Church, have the same authority as Christ
and Paul. We’re given the task to take over their ministries and keep them
going in the world. We’re given their authority. If we don’t have it, I’m not
sure why anyone thinks he has the right to teach or discipline others within
the Church. I’m pretty sure Michael believes in apostolic succession as
everyone else does, so in one form or the other, someone today (whether each
individual Christian or Church elders in line with orthodox teaching) has the
same authority to proclaim truth on the earth as the Lord Jesus and the apostle
Paul did. Their authority is not something different than ours.
- If it
is belligerent to approach someone in harshness, and I’m assuming Michael
is saying this is bad (i.e., wrong, not glorifying to God, not becoming of
a Christian, and therefore, a sin), then appealing to authority is a
red-herring. One’s authority has nothing to do with one’s right to sin. In
essence, Michael is saying, “Yes, well, Christ and Paul did something bad,
but because of their authority, it was good in their cases.” Hugh? If it’s
wrong to treat a human being in a less than irenic fashion, then it’s
wrong, period. If it’s sometimes right and sometimes wrong, depending upon
the situation, then I’m in full agreement with Michael. But that’s not
what he argued.
- I have
to point out that Michael has been harsh with people many times before,
but it’s usually people who commit the unpardonable sin of having the
wrong tone. In fact, Michael and I parted company on this point. You can
claim to be a Christian and be committing a horrible sin, and you can stay
on his blog. You can bring all sorts of theological error to his blog and
not be removed. But if you have the wrong tone or are too harsh, then you
get rebuked and threatened to be removed. Now, Michael didn’t do this to
me, although he made it known that he didn’t like me being harsh many
times. Instead, he just told me if I couldn’t agree with his rules
concerning tone (I thought they were a capitulation to relativism and
still do), then I shouldn’t comment. I chose not to comment anymore, as I
felt that all of what we argued for as true would be diminished as less
important than how we interact with one another, and that for me
undermines, not the technicality of truth itself, but the importance of truth.
So I think that Michael’s post is woefully unbiblical,
indicts every prophet, wise man, and teacher of God from the Bible to the many
harsh souls who took truth just that seriously throughout Church History.
I, of course, am not saying that we should not, in general,
approach people with an irenic spirit. My point, and many points made by those
who commented on his blog, is that it takes more discernment and reading people
in their comments to know how to respond than just making blanket statements
that we should always respond one way to everyone, because that’s what Jesus,
who didn’t do that, wants of us.
There is a lot more I could unpack here: the tendency in our
culture to no longer see God as wrathful, although not something Michael would
believe, does feed into what we consider “godly” and what we do not. If godliness
means to be like God in His character, loving what He loves and hating what He
hates, why in the world would it not include a wrath toward what is deceptive
and evil? Why in the world would it not include a harsh tone in rebuking obstinacy
in what has the possibility of dishonoring God and murdering souls?
Does this mean we should always just respond to people in
whatever way we feel like doing so? No, we should respond to them according to
the issue and the person’s attitude toward godliness and truth in learning
about that issue. Many times that’s to respond in a very irenic fashion, but
sometimes that means we ought to respond in a very harsh tone.
I’ve seen people rescued in both ways, but I’ve seen more
people saved from things like suicide by harsh tones than soft ones. There is
just something the person needs that is conveyed in a harsh tone that is not
conveyed in a soft one. There is something about truth that is confirmed with a
harsh tone that is not conveyed in a soft tone.
Now, I realize that Michael lives in the South and I live in
the wishy-washy Northeast, so it may be that when he hears me or anyone else
speaking directly and harshly, he thinks of some belligerent fundamentalist
preachers spouting off and yelling at people for no good reason. These people
are often not thoughtful people who consider what the other person is saying.
So be it. But it is equally a fundamentalist move to blanket a
one-size-fits-all response that condemns all other responses because you’ve had
a bad experience with it, and would rather just remove other responses
altogether rather than keep them and use control and discernment. It’s easier
to just get rid of the TV; it’s easier just to reject dancing altogether; it’s
easier just to not watch a movie, or celebrate a holiday, etc. than it is to
have control of oneself and use discernment in their use. In the same way,
being harsh can be abused, and it often is, but that is absolutely no reason to
condemn the bulk of Christian teachers who were harsh as often as they were
soft in their tones throughout biblical and ecclesiastical history because of
that abuse.
In the end, Michael has prooftexted his way to establishing
a cultural ideal, and this is dangerous, as he also acts upon this to deal out
rebuke and discipline, thus dividing the people of God over a cultural ideal
rather than seeking the peace in truth. Let us be unified in truth, speak it with
love for God and others as our motivation, and never divide Christians between
those who we feel have a nice tone versus those who we feel do not. Such is the
work of the cult in culture, not the Spirit of Truth in the Body of Christ.